Comments on: Beer Review – Staropramen http://thebrewclub.com/2009/02/11/beer-review-staropramen/ Its all about the beer! Wed, 09 May 2012 23:55:43 +0000 hourly 1 By: Bob the Brit http://thebrewclub.com/2009/02/11/beer-review-staropramen/comment-page-1/#comment-8443 Bob the Brit Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:49:03 +0000 http://thebrewclub.com/?p=287#comment-8443 Hi Steve, thanks for the updates, the story was as correct as I could ascertain when I wrote it back in 2009. And in my defense I didn't claim that Staro was still being brewed in oak. And while the demise of traditional techniques is regrettable (and inevitable), the fact remains that Staro is still not being brewed under licence in the UK as so many 'premium' lagers (Stella Artois, Kronenbourg, Sam Adams) are. It's worth seeking out Michael Jackson's 'Beerhunter' video from Pilsen before the oak vessels were replaced. And yes, I have reviewed a Herold brew for The Brewclub, check out "two dark czech lagers" <a href="http://thebrewclub.com/2009/06/24/two-dark-czech-lagers/" title="Two Dark Czech Lagers" rel="nofollow"></a> Hi Steve,

thanks for the updates, the story was as correct as I could ascertain when I wrote it back in 2009. And in my defense I didn’t claim that Staro was still being brewed in oak.

And while the demise of traditional techniques is regrettable (and inevitable), the fact remains that Staro is still not being brewed under licence in the UK as so many ‘premium’ lagers (Stella Artois, Kronenbourg, Sam Adams) are.

It’s worth seeking out Michael Jackson’s ‘Beerhunter’ video from Pilsen before the oak vessels were replaced.

And yes, I have reviewed a Herold brew for The Brewclub, check out “two dark czech lagers”

]]> By: Steve http://thebrewclub.com/2009/02/11/beer-review-staropramen/comment-page-1/#comment-8441 Steve Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:53:09 +0000 http://thebrewclub.com/?p=287#comment-8441 I hate to be a party pooper, but this story is in fact untrue: InterBev has gotten rid of the "oak barrels" and Staropramen is made in a large industrial brewery to maximize profits and cut corners, e.g. they no longer brew it as it was done in times before the Velvet Revolution. I live in Prague and know many, many Czech beer lovers. These are not expats: these are native Czechs, and they say Staropramen is shit beer--beer they never drink--because it no longer is brewed the traditional way since InterBev took over. It was not 1 or 2 native Czechs that told me this---but numerous Czechs! Even Pilsner Urquell is also not being brewed in its traditional brewery in Plsen; it is now switching to an industrial, hi-volume/low cost brewing technique. Sorry to bring you the bad news, but at least you now know the truth of the demise of Staropramen since capitalism came to Prague :-( ...ending on a positive note the one brand in Czech Republic which many native Czechs give begrudging respect to is Bernard. Here is their website, it is not an old beer label, but nonetheless they brew their beer in an unpasteurized, traditional method-- http://www.bernard.cz/en/story/brewery.shtml Like I said, hate to break it to ya but Staropramen is considered the equivalent of "Old Milwaukee" back in the states LOL. Happy drinking, cheers, Steve I hate to be a party pooper, but this story is in fact untrue: InterBev has gotten rid of the “oak barrels” and Staropramen is made in a large industrial brewery to maximize profits and cut corners, e.g. they no longer brew it as it was done in times before the Velvet Revolution. I live in Prague and know many, many Czech beer lovers. These are not expats: these are native Czechs, and they say Staropramen is shit beer–beer they never drink–because it no longer is brewed the traditional way since InterBev took over.

It was not 1 or 2 native Czechs that told me this—but numerous Czechs! Even Pilsner Urquell is also not being brewed in its traditional brewery in Plsen; it is now switching to an industrial, hi-volume/low cost brewing technique.

Sorry to bring you the bad news, but at least you now know the truth of the demise of Staropramen since capitalism came to Prague :-(

…ending on a positive note the one brand in Czech Republic which many native Czechs give begrudging respect to is Bernard. Here is their website, it is not an old beer label, but nonetheless they brew their beer in an unpasteurized, traditional method–
http://www.bernard.cz/en/story/brewery.shtml

Like I said, hate to break it to ya but Staropramen is considered the equivalent of “Old Milwaukee” back in the states LOL.

Happy drinking, cheers,

Steve

]]> By: Scott-TheBrewClub http://thebrewclub.com/2009/02/11/beer-review-staropramen/comment-page-1/#comment-7867 Scott-TheBrewClub Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:50:27 +0000 http://thebrewclub.com/?p=287#comment-7867 @Kimberly - yep, its worked many times for me. If one person is asking for it, chances are other people will buy it too so it isn't like they'd be stuck with it. Good luck! @Kimberly – yep, its worked many times for me. If one person is asking for it, chances are other people will buy it too so it isn’t like they’d be stuck with it. Good luck!

]]> By: Kimberly http://thebrewclub.com/2009/02/11/beer-review-staropramen/comment-page-1/#comment-7866 Kimberly Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:09:12 +0000 http://thebrewclub.com/?p=287#comment-7866 @Scott, thanks! I never thought of that. We live in Texas. @Scott, thanks! I never thought of that. We live in Texas.

]]> By: Scott-TheBrewClub http://thebrewclub.com/2009/02/11/beer-review-staropramen/comment-page-1/#comment-7863 Scott-TheBrewClub Sun, 13 Nov 2011 03:59:30 +0000 http://thebrewclub.com/?p=287#comment-7863 @Kimberly - How thoughtful! Where do you live??? (State) Be sure to ask a manager if they can get it - many times stores can get a beer for you even if it isn't something they normally stock. Its worth a shot! @Kimberly – How thoughtful! Where do you live??? (State)

Be sure to ask a manager if they can get it – many times stores can get a beer for you even if it isn’t something they normally stock. Its worth a shot!

]]> By: Kimberly http://thebrewclub.com/2009/02/11/beer-review-staropramen/comment-page-1/#comment-7859 Kimberly Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:04:23 +0000 http://thebrewclub.com/?p=287#comment-7859 Does anyone know where I can buy this beer? This is my husband's favorite beer and I want to suprise him with a case for Christmas. I have looked everywhere and can't find it. Thanks for your help! Kim Does anyone know where I can buy this beer? This is my husband’s favorite beer and I want to suprise him with a case for Christmas. I have looked everywhere and can’t find it. Thanks for your help!

Kim

]]> By: Prenj http://thebrewclub.com/2009/02/11/beer-review-staropramen/comment-page-1/#comment-4509 Prenj Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:00:53 +0000 http://thebrewclub.com/?p=287#comment-4509 Though I haven't had an opportunity to taste the original, and I cannot compare them, I have to say that this one brewed in Croatia is excellent. Which is not the case for many other beers brewed 'under licence' in our region (Balkans), like Heineken, Carlsberg, Tuborg, Stella Artois, ... Though I haven’t had an opportunity to taste the original, and I cannot compare them, I have to say that this one brewed in Croatia is excellent.
Which is not the case for many other beers brewed ‘under licence’ in our region (Balkans), like Heineken, Carlsberg, Tuborg, Stella Artois, …

]]> By: Bob the Brit http://thebrewclub.com/2009/02/11/beer-review-staropramen/comment-page-1/#comment-4504 Bob the Brit Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:13:48 +0000 http://thebrewclub.com/?p=287#comment-4504 Thanks for the news @prenj, even if it's sad news. I guess the fact that they stayed true to the contract terms for ten years should be considered a result. And anyone who has read my other postings on this site will be fully aware of my views on beers being brewed 'under licence' - away from their (ahem) spiritual home. .-= Bob the Brit´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.tolfalas.com/2010/10/leave-a-light-on/" rel="nofollow">Leave a light on</a> =-. Thanks for the news @prenj, even if it’s sad news.

I guess the fact that they stayed true to the contract terms for ten years should be considered a result. And anyone who has read my other postings on this site will be fully aware of my views on beers being brewed ‘under licence’ – away from their (ahem) spiritual home.
.-= Bob the Brit´s last blog ..Leave a light on =-.

]]> By: Prenj http://thebrewclub.com/2009/02/11/beer-review-staropramen/comment-page-1/#comment-4503 Prenj Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:40:01 +0000 http://thebrewclub.com/?p=287#comment-4503 Unfortunately, Staropramen is not brewed only in Prag any more, it's brewed in Croatia as well Unfortunately, Staropramen is not brewed only in Prag any more, it’s brewed in Croatia as well

]]> By: Michael Reinhardt http://thebrewclub.com/2009/02/11/beer-review-staropramen/comment-page-1/#comment-1001 Michael Reinhardt Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:26:03 +0000 http://thebrewclub.com/?p=287#comment-1001 Nice job again Bob. I think last time I called you Rob (sorry). It is sad to see when companies take out their wooden fermenters or storage vessel. I know numerous people who have told me that Pilsner Urquell was never quite the same when SAB bought them out and replaced wood with stainless steel. It's terrible when "progress" is really regress and you end up with a flattening out of beers. Some progress seems to be even colder than the coldest lager. Nice job again Bob. I think last time I called you Rob (sorry). It is sad to see when companies take out their wooden fermenters or storage vessel. I know numerous people who have told me that Pilsner Urquell was never quite the same when SAB bought them out and replaced wood with stainless steel. It’s terrible when “progress” is really regress and you end up with a flattening out of beers. Some progress seems to be even colder than the coldest lager.

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