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	<title>Comments on: Atwater Block Brewery &#8211; Vanilla Java Porter Review</title>
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		<title>By: Scott-TheBrewClub</title>
		<link>http://thebrewclub.com/2009/08/05/atwater-block-brewery-vanilla-java-porter-review/comment-page-1/#comment-4650</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott-TheBrewClub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 23:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Adam - I wish I could have phased it like that!  Exactly.  From what I remember, this beer seemed to lack identity.  Writing checks that it couldn&#039;t cash so-to-speak.

Great comment and thanks for stopping in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adam &#8211; I wish I could have phased it like that!  Exactly.  From what I remember, this beer seemed to lack identity.  Writing checks that it couldn&#8217;t cash so-to-speak.</p>
<p>Great comment and thanks for stopping in!</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://thebrewclub.com/2009/08/05/atwater-block-brewery-vanilla-java-porter-review/comment-page-1/#comment-4649</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 23:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I whole-heartedly agree. With the potent combination of flavors and the classification of a porter, I expected a significantly more robust taste and was disappointed by a beer that seemed unable to commit to anything, really. I personally define a porter as a dark robust beer with roasted malt overtones but a hint of hopiness that stouts lack, culminating in a complex taste. While this beer seemed to suggest further complexity with vanilla and coffee, it offered what seemed like a non-committal taste at the fore front that taped off into relative obscurity in its after-taste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I whole-heartedly agree. With the potent combination of flavors and the classification of a porter, I expected a significantly more robust taste and was disappointed by a beer that seemed unable to commit to anything, really. I personally define a porter as a dark robust beer with roasted malt overtones but a hint of hopiness that stouts lack, culminating in a complex taste. While this beer seemed to suggest further complexity with vanilla and coffee, it offered what seemed like a non-committal taste at the fore front that taped off into relative obscurity in its after-taste.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy@BeeraDay.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy@BeeraDay.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading your review reminded me of the high hopes I had the day I found this beer last winter. I loved the idea of this flavor combination, but I suffered the same disapointment. Probably took me a full month to drink the entire six pack!  (I bought it just outside of Boston, MA.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading your review reminded me of the high hopes I had the day I found this beer last winter. I loved the idea of this flavor combination, but I suffered the same disapointment. Probably took me a full month to drink the entire six pack!  (I bought it just outside of Boston, MA.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bob the Brit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob the Brit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking back on some of the reviews I&#039;ve done for The Brewclub recently I&#039;ve noticed a preponderance of dark chocolatey beers, so a hint of vanilla would probably go down quite well. 

And as for the German brewing kit, surely all you need for lagering in some large tanks in a cool dark place?
.-= Bob the Brit&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bobthebrit.net/2009/08/08/roundabouts/#utm_source=feed&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=feed&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Roundabouts&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking back on some of the reviews I&#8217;ve done for The Brewclub recently I&#8217;ve noticed a preponderance of dark chocolatey beers, so a hint of vanilla would probably go down quite well. </p>
<p>And as for the German brewing kit, surely all you need for lagering in some large tanks in a cool dark place?<br />
.-= Bob the Brit&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.bobthebrit.net/2009/08/08/roundabouts/#utm_source=feed&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=feed" rel="nofollow">Roundabouts</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Simply Beer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simply Beer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking about joining a beer of the month club again.  I used to do it about 10 years ago.  Loved the beers I was getting, but they get so expensive.  I would love a beer of the month club that sent you 6 different beers in a 12pk.  My ideal...

I&#039;ve tended to stay away from the vanilla induced beers they tend to go overboard on the vanilla, but maybe I should try some more.  I do love the subtle vanilla notes you get from oak aging,  but that seems to have a different vanilla flavor then adding beans or extract to brews.
.-= Simply Beer&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.simplybeer.com/blog/2009/08/06/avery-the-beast-grand-cru/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Avery The Beast Grand Cru&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about joining a beer of the month club again.  I used to do it about 10 years ago.  Loved the beers I was getting, but they get so expensive.  I would love a beer of the month club that sent you 6 different beers in a 12pk.  My ideal&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tended to stay away from the vanilla induced beers they tend to go overboard on the vanilla, but maybe I should try some more.  I do love the subtle vanilla notes you get from oak aging,  but that seems to have a different vanilla flavor then adding beans or extract to brews.<br />
.-= Simply Beer&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.simplybeer.com/blog/2009/08/06/avery-the-beast-grand-cru/" rel="nofollow">Avery The Beast Grand Cru</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott-TheBrewClub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott-TheBrewClub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gregg Prince, thanks for stopping in!  We hope you return from time to time and share your thoughts with the class!  One of the things I love about beer is two people can try the same exact thing and have two different reactions - like you mentioned.  Its all personal really.  We try not to go too far down the &#039;scientific&#039; and methodical road when we review here. I have a beer, and put my thoughts out there for the world to agree or disagree, or ignore - and its been a fun trip so far!

@nate - that&#039;s right.  This beer was far from awful, its just that I&#039;ve had much better.  Sometimes it very hard to review a beer in a vacuum like its the only beer on earth, its tough to not compare it to others that have been tried.  Still, I do my best to give every beer a fair shake and offer my honest opinion.  Interesting comments on the imported brew-house.
.-= Scott-TheBrewClub&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://thebrewclub.com/2009/07/13/lindemans-framboise-raspberry-lambic/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lindemans Framboise Raspberry Lambic&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gregg Prince, thanks for stopping in!  We hope you return from time to time and share your thoughts with the class!  One of the things I love about beer is two people can try the same exact thing and have two different reactions &#8211; like you mentioned.  Its all personal really.  We try not to go too far down the &#8216;scientific&#8217; and methodical road when we review here. I have a beer, and put my thoughts out there for the world to agree or disagree, or ignore &#8211; and its been a fun trip so far!</p>
<p>@nate &#8211; that&#8217;s right.  This beer was far from awful, its just that I&#8217;ve had much better.  Sometimes it very hard to review a beer in a vacuum like its the only beer on earth, its tough to not compare it to others that have been tried.  Still, I do my best to give every beer a fair shake and offer my honest opinion.  Interesting comments on the imported brew-house.<br />
.-= Scott-TheBrewClub&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://thebrewclub.com/2009/07/13/lindemans-framboise-raspberry-lambic/" rel="nofollow">Lindemans Framboise Raspberry Lambic</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to post again, but the more I think about the &quot;german brewhouse&quot; I must assume that they have an advantage over other breweries in Lagering beer...although from research I&#039;ve done, it&#039;s available stateside.
.-= nate&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ThankHeavenForBeer/~3/1RI_Kkpy2Uk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A Gift Fit For A Beer Geek…&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to post again, but the more I think about the &#8220;german brewhouse&#8221; I must assume that they have an advantage over other breweries in Lagering beer&#8230;although from research I&#8217;ve done, it&#8217;s available stateside.<br />
.-= nate&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ThankHeavenForBeer/~3/1RI_Kkpy2Uk/" rel="nofollow">A Gift Fit For A Beer Geek…</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny...it&#039;s brewed in Detroit, but I cannot get it 45 miles south in Toledo.  When i make it up to Michigan, I&#039;ll pick it up.  I tried Atwater&#039;s Voodoovator and thought it was very good.  I am not huge on coffee beer, but I always like to give different brews a try.

As for your second to last paragraph, I get it!  Just because a beer gets a low rating doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s disgusting, right?  How could anyone differentiate between the decent and the superb if everything got a 4 star rating?

As far as the imported german brewhouse... I am FAR from an expert, but even if it is a rarity, judging by the pics it&#039;s more hype than anything.
.-= nate&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ThankHeavenForBeer/~3/1RI_Kkpy2Uk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A Gift Fit For A Beer Geek…&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny&#8230;it&#8217;s brewed in Detroit, but I cannot get it 45 miles south in Toledo.  When i make it up to Michigan, I&#8217;ll pick it up.  I tried Atwater&#8217;s Voodoovator and thought it was very good.  I am not huge on coffee beer, but I always like to give different brews a try.</p>
<p>As for your second to last paragraph, I get it!  Just because a beer gets a low rating doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s disgusting, right?  How could anyone differentiate between the decent and the superb if everything got a 4 star rating?</p>
<p>As far as the imported german brewhouse&#8230; I am FAR from an expert, but even if it is a rarity, judging by the pics it&#8217;s more hype than anything.<br />
.-= nate&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ThankHeavenForBeer/~3/1RI_Kkpy2Uk/" rel="nofollow">A Gift Fit For A Beer Geek…</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg Prince</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregg Prince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the 2nd time I&#039;ve received the Atwater Vanilla Java Porter in my Beer of the Month and it has become one of my favorite beers; definitely my favorite that I&#039;ve ever received from the club. I&#039;m not intending to contradict your review, just pointing out how different people&#039;s tastes are. I find the vanilla flavor very pleasant and truly enjoy the coffee finish. I think your description is pretty much spot-on of how it drinks, our reactions to it are just different. Great review and nice site BTW; found you through a post from OnlyBeerNews on twitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the 2nd time I&#8217;ve received the Atwater Vanilla Java Porter in my Beer of the Month and it has become one of my favorite beers; definitely my favorite that I&#8217;ve ever received from the club. I&#8217;m not intending to contradict your review, just pointing out how different people&#8217;s tastes are. I find the vanilla flavor very pleasant and truly enjoy the coffee finish. I think your description is pretty much spot-on of how it drinks, our reactions to it are just different. Great review and nice site BTW; found you through a post from OnlyBeerNews on twitter.</p>
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